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Re: Legalizing marijuana
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2009, 10:47:45 PM »
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Re: Legalizing marijuana
« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2009, 08:17:08 PM »
It's so ARGH! to see drugged people... =.="

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Re: Legalizing marijuana
« Reply #17 on: December 25, 2009, 10:18:05 PM »
No one it should be legalised.

It has serious effects on your health, then i would bet the number of road accidents would go up because more and more people start doing it and then driving.

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Re: Legalizing marijuana
« Reply #18 on: December 26, 2009, 11:14:26 AM »
It has serious effects on your health, then i would bet the number of road accidents would go up because more and more people start doing it and then driving.

Do some research, smoking tobacco is worse than Marijuana. Also, Marijuana contains some special substance inside that kills cancer cells, forgot the name. Also, alcohol is much worse as for road accidents. If those two are legalized, why shouldn't Marijuana be?
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Re: Legalizing marijuana
« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2009, 12:59:48 AM »
Do some research, smoking tobacco is worse than Marijuana. Also, Marijuana contains some special substance inside that kills cancer cells, forgot the name. Also, alcohol is much worse as for road accidents. If those two are legalized, why shouldn't Marijuana be?

I never said marijuana was worse. The substance is THC and marijuana can and is already used in medicine however it doesn't need to be legalised. They would simply extract what they need from it and create a vaccine.  Alcohol and marijuana have very similar effects on driving and they are as bad as each other.

Also i forgot in one australian territory marijuana is legal...your allowed to have one plant for personal use only. How did i forget lol =P

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Re: Legalizing marijuana
« Reply #20 on: January 03, 2010, 04:10:53 AM »
Well I personally think it should be legalized. Weed doesn't effect your driving anywhere as bad as drinking. And it doesn't destroy your lungs like cigarettes. And it actually relieves stress. And it's not addictive. Personally I think if it were legalized our ecomny would rise. Most Americans smoke it anyway. Atleast in my town.

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Re: Legalizing marijuana
« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2010, 09:22:14 AM »
*sigh*

research it, it is just as bad as drink driving. As many positives as it has their are still PLENTY of negatives and as far as any health organisation/government is concerned it's a bad idea to legalise it unless it already is legalised because of all the advertising campaigns they would have to create about safe usage and then their would be more road accidents anyway no doubt and then more people would get sick because more people would smoke it more often. And it would just became a big mess, cigarettes all over again.

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Re: Legalizing marijuana
« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2010, 07:06:47 PM »
What sickness do you get from weed? I mean the fact it does make you lazy to most people their are people who are actually active when smoking pot. Really I think it's an opinion. The only difference between pot and cig's are some people are allergic to THC

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Re: Legalizing marijuana
« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2010, 10:54:32 PM »
I hate the idea of it. It may 'cure' health problems, but it also causes health problems.


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Re: Legalizing marijuana
« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2010, 12:00:11 AM »
I'd seriously like you people to cite references on the myth that it causes health problems. No idea where you guys are digging that load of crap up.

@forest Really? Bad driving is the only reason you can think of? I've ridden with people under the influence of alcohol and it's scary as all hell. I've also ridden with those who were high frequently and it wasn't anywhere near as bad. My friend Sam is sober, and she still drives worse than all of them. When you're high, you tend to be a bit more careless, sure. It's not like drunk driving where you're more reckless.

If anything, marijuana should be legal so cops can stop focusing their efforts on harmless people that are high and start going after destructive people with guns.
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Re: Legalizing marijuana
« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2010, 01:32:02 AM »
@Myooze I'd seriously like you to prove that it DOES NOT cause health problems.

Road accidents was just one reason I mentioned, don't forget the health implications which are taught in all Personal Development and Health classes in schools across the globe, not to mention all the flyers that are distributed by renowned health organisations [one such organisation local to me is called CDAT].

Lets see what NIDA has to say:
http://www.nida.nih.gov/infofacts/marijuana.html

I'm not denying that it has positives such as relaxing you, reducing stress blah blah blah. But the negatives far outweigh the positives. I challenge you to find a renowned health organisation that supports the legalisation of marijuana and says that these negative health effects are just a myth like you say.

Also marijuana is in fact legal in one part of Australia near me but just because it is legal DOESN'T mean police just ignore it and focus on "destructive people with guns". There are all the restrictions that come with the drug being legalised. Such as limits on quantities and again driving under the influence plus you don't mention already struggling health systems having to cope with all the marijuana induced problems caused by more people using it more often.


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Re: Legalizing marijuana
« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2010, 06:06:57 AM »
I'll agree with everything under the "Effects on Daily Life" section... but that's not really health. That's just people not giving a shit about their life after getting high. And that's fine, because as I said before, it's their life to control, not mine. Also, some of this is unverified (ie. "Thus, the link between marijuana smoking and these cancers remains unsubstantiated at this time."). There's just no real solid scientific evidence that marijuana causes serious health problems. Both alcohol and cigarettes are far more addictive than marijuana will ever be. It's been proven that both can kill you effectively and I guarantee there's a lot more deaths related to alcohol/cigarette abuse than cannabis. The reason it's bullshit that marijuana isn't legal is simply because substances like alcohol and tobacco are. Both are far more harmful and, if I'm honest, a lot more annoying as well.

"Also marijuana is in fact legal in one part of Australia near me but just because it is legal DOESN'T mean police just ignore it and focus on "destructive people with guns"."

I'm aware of this. No. The point is, in America, there's far too much emphasis on the war on drugs. There's more important things to be worried about than some high schoolers doing hemp in the boys locker room. I know they'd still be on the lookout, but a heavy portion of it would be gone and able to focus on stopping crimes that actually matter.
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Re: Legalizing marijuana
« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2010, 11:52:30 AM »
I don't think it'll be constructive. It's bad enough that cigarettes aren't outright forbidden. I've seen kids smoking cigarettes here and I know vendors will not hesitate to sell them to children. Heck, all the kid needs to do is claim he's buying it for his dad. I've been sent to the store a couple of times when I was little and they'd sell me cigarettes and beer no questions asked. (Then again, I'm not from America so I dunno if people there are stricter with these things)

So if you legalize marijuana for 21-year-olds how sure are you that kids, especially those too young to weigh the outcomes of starting a habit, won't get their hands on the stuff?

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Re: Legalizing marijuana
« Reply #28 on: February 16, 2010, 12:44:10 AM »
Constructive? You miss the point entirely. It's another freedom to do as we please. Cigarettes forbidden? Just who are you to say how people should live their lives and treat their bodies? Are you saying you know what's better for them than they do? As for selling to underage kids, it really depends on the vendor. In the US, it's law to check ID even if the person looks 30 years old. Every time I've bought them for my ma, I've always been carded. If a sale is made to a minor, that is the vendor's fault.

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So if you legalize marijuana for 21-year-olds how sure are you that kids, especially those too young to weigh the outcomes of starting a habit, won't get their hands on the stuff?

I'm afraid I don't understand the intelligence of this question. Kids get their hands on guns, cigarettes, alcohol, etc all the time due to the irresponsibility of their parents. Cannabis is far less harmful than any of those things. So, what exactly is your point?

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Here I thought America was obsessed with war on terror, and not with drugs.

Psh. Awful harsh generalization. Be careful with your words.
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Re: Legalizing marijuana
« Reply #29 on: February 16, 2010, 10:04:50 AM »
Well, I guess you do have a point. One should indeed be free to breathe it himself (though secondhand fumes might be another issue to work at. I'm going with Flare's view on this - if you want to smoke, fine but I don't want any of that) and people should have the right to do with their lives as they please, even if they were to spend it taking whatever kinds of drugs they wish in any amount they find fit. Freedom of Choice at its finest, I suppose.  :-\

I forgot to mention this in the earlier post. If I'm not mistaken, cigarettes (and perhaps alcohol, in a similar manner) being forbidden is more of an economic problem than a human rights issue. They can't outlaw it because of the economic impact of closing tobacco industries, the shutdown of which would lead to the loss of thousands of jobs, not to mention the amount of tax the government gets from these businesses. So, unless there's a similar economic dilemma with marijuana, I don't think it's a good excuse to point fingers at tobacco and alcohol then say "they're legal, why not marijuana?" Marijuana and alcohol/tobacco are not in the same boat.
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